S-SO OLD. I decided to color this old normaler pic I drew. I miss this otp…
S-SO OLD. I decided to color this old normaler pic I drew. I miss this otp…
“Grammy, is this a real thing that we’re talking about now?”
“Oh, he’s real alright.”
To me, the way Grammy Norma says “Oh, he’s real alright” and the way she looks down at her plate with that suspicious look of hers… screams she knew the Once-ler before all of this. It seems improbable have that confidence and that tone of voice about someone that you’ve never seen in person. Especially in her day in age… so yes, my headcanon is that Norma and Once-ler knew each other. Possibly before be became a bigshot when he had been “advertising” in town.
FINALLY. THE PHOTOSET I HAVE LONGED FOR IS ON MY BLOG.
Just look at her; she is so god damn amazing to me. And the way Betty White delivered those lines, just like how recklessisawreck said, is perfect. You can hear the history in how she says it. Just hat ‘Oh’ at the start, the whole phrase in the wording and delivering she’s just not talking about a business man who came into town to sell his Thneed and changed the world for the worst, she’s talking about a man she knew. A man she probably spoken to on more than one occasion.
And forgive my normaler feels but a man she may have even known intimately. Her voice reeks of reminiscence, of memories, of nostalgia and times long since passed when she was young and vibrant and the world was a different place. She’s remembering a good time in her life, when the Once-ler was a man, not a story or a monster or even forgotten. Just how long has she been waiting to speak of him? Since he vanished?
That’s a long time to wait to finally talk about someone so of course she sounds so… content, calm, and pleased with herself being handled the opportunity by her own grandson.
Betty White you voiced this woman beautifully and you have my up most respect. Hell, you always have ever since Golden Girls.
You see that? They are really similar.
The Once-ler is Ted’s grandfather.
Grammy Norma is in a relationship with the Once-ler and she has a child—a beautiful little girl— with him very soon before the last Truffula Tree is killed.
When the last tree falls, Once-ler becomes depressed and tells Norma to leave him because he doesn’t deserve her. He slips farther and farther out of her reach, becoming more and more closed off and violent towards her. No matter how badly she wants to stay with him, she leaves, taking their daughter with her. She moves into Thneedville, far away from the factory, giving him the space and time he needs. She hopes maybe he’ll come find her, but he never does.
She never tells her daughter about Once-ler, but she never forgets him, hoping that one day he may come back to town. The girl asks about him from time to time, but Norma never tells her the truth, or she simply responds with “You’ll understand when you’re older.” She hopes every day that her daughter will show an interest in a real tree, so that she could find him and prove that people do care about trees. She never does.
Then, this daughter of hers grows up, starts a family of her own, and she has a son. Her daughter experiences the loss of her own husband, and Norma grieves with her. She debates telling her about her father, but decides that its too late. She’s too old to care much about him since he wasn’t there at all during her life.
Then, Norma’s grandson grows up a little, and one day surprises her by asking her about the one thing that may bring her love back to her. He wants a tree. She tells him eagerly how to contact him, and encourages him, even lies to her daughter so that he is able to talk to him.
She just waits for Ted to bring back her love, Ted’s grandfather, and Mrs. Wiggin’s father.
Oh lord help me ideas are happening…..ideas are happening inside my head aaAAHH…
Norma fell in love with Once-ler before he got famous. When he was still just a goofy eccentric young kid trying to carve out his dreams and living in a forest. Still not taken seriously by anyone. Or cared about by anyone (human) really. Except for her. She supported him in his starry-eyed ambitions, was there to show him he wasn’t worthless, for the first time ever. Cries ok I DON’T know what the intricate dynamics of their relationship would exactly be like, but I can totally see her constantly lightening things up, cheering him up, lifting him up again after facing failure upon failure.
So my headcanon for how and when their relationship dissolved is that after he finally succeeded, after his thneed started to sell, and he started making bad decisions…chopping down trees instead of harvesting the tufts, mass-producing thneeds in a factory, thus causing incredible amounts of pollution to spew out in every form, essentially maiming the environment completely…becoming more and more greedy and less and less considerate of any outside factors, becoming more and more wealthy, more and more famous, more and more fed with artificial doting by his family…after all of this had gotten to his head and started to change who he was, change what his priorities were, he started to neglect Norma. Brush her aside. Take her for granted. Show a deference towards his mother over her (we’ve all heard of stories of a man’s domineering mother getting in the middle of his relationships). Spend all of his time focused on his business, and no time with Norma. That same capacity for being distracted from his surroundings, even beautiful or loving surroundings—manifest in the way he blindly worked onward towards his goal back in the truffula forest with the animals—appeared again in its worst, most selfish extreme. I’m not imagining that he would forget her entirely, just forget to cherish her. And perhaps sometimes treat her like she didn’t matter, marginalize her in his life. Leave her alone a lot. She would of course be immensely hurt by all this, and would also be more and more put off by the man he had become. By the wrongs he was committing. Eventually she felt like she couldn’t stand by a man who did these things to the environment any longer. She had tried to make him realize what he had been doing, but his reaction was that same kind of defensive fury displayed towards the Lorax—though perhaps a little softer, sweet talking, coaxing her into submission. “Relax babe…don’t you trust me?” That sort of thing. Anyway, yes, I imagine that SHE left HIM. And something that I just thought of right now is the breaking point—the last straw. Maybe…mAYBE she found out she was pregnant, and wanted to tell him. Was filled with hope again that maybe this would open his eyes to her, to everything. That maybe they could make this work. For the baby. Then she tried to tell him. She tried, and tried. And tried. She would say she had something very important to tell him, and he would always have an excuse, this or that thing to do, all apparently more important than her. Cut her off. Doors closed in her face. Completely shut out. And then…I’m imagining some sort of final explosion, or implosion. He leaves her hanging, dismisses her, says he promises next time, just right now he has to…without even looking at her, his body language suggesting that he was addressing nobody higher than maybe a servant. Someone highly insignificant in his big, important businessman lifestyle. But this time she demends his audience, demands to speak to her lover and to stop being ignored. She breaks down. All of her built up feelings of rejection are unleashed in an unbridled emotional outpour. Perhaps in front of professional people while he’s in a meeting because she’s just that DONE with this shit. And he’s only infuriated, says some hurtful things, some horribly horribly damaging and deep cutting hurtful things in stress fueled, money madness fueled, business fueled rage at her emotional nonsense. Something along those lines. And then she knows. Or thinks she understands. That he doesn’t care for her, or anything anymore, besides biggering his business. She doesn’t see any of the man she fell in love with left in his eyes. So she silently leaves (maybe a few shaky poignant ominous vague words left hanging with him before she turns on her heels and marches out while she still has her dignity, and maybe a weak attempt at a saucy retort from him when really her actions have kind of scared him—or maybe they haven’t and he literally has become so delusioned as to actually believe she would never leave him sJSFJD IDK) SHE LEAVES THE ROOM, packs her bags, and goes, goes to live in Thneedville without ever telling him that she was with child.
So she raises the little girl (Ted’s mom cough cough) all on her own, with the daughter never knowing who her father was, and the Once-ler never knowing he had offspring.
Also, dude, Ted’s mom’s body type is definitely the result of her dad’s genes I mean look how lean and tall she is compared to Grammy Norma OPEN YOUR EYES MAN
Gloves, your headcanons are always so AWESOME.
Poor old man can’t get a break.
Ok, this was another excuse to draw old Once-ler hiding in his scarf. This ship does things to me, man. ;_;